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03/19/2021 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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03:22:11 PM Start
03:23:54 PM HB133
03:50:16 PM State Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land Surveyors
04:08:47 PM Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission
04:13:22 PM State Board of Physical Therapy & Occupational Therapy
04:21:36 PM State Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land Surveyors
04:25:24 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Teleconference <Listen Only> --
+ Consideration of Governor's Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
- Alaska Labor Relations Agency: Tyler Andrews
- State Board of Registration for Architects,
Engineers & Land Surveyors: Fred Wallis,
Elizabeth Johnston <Removed From Agenda>,
Robert "Bob" Bell, Jeffrey Garness, Loren Leman,
Edward Leonetti, Jake Maxwell, Arpad "Bruce"
Magyar, & Randall Rozier
- Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission:
Deirdre Ford, James Rhodes <Removed From Agenda>,
& Amy Steele
- State Board of Physical Therapy & Occupational
Therapy: Enlow Walker <Removed From Agenda>,
Lisa Radley, Nathan Missler, Rebecca Dean, &
Jodi Pfeiffer
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
*+ HB 133 AK ED SAVINGS PROGRAMS/ELIGIBILITY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                     ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                 
           HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                          March 19, 2021                                                                                        
                            3:22 p.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Zack Fields, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Ivy Spohnholz, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Calvin Schrage                                                                                                   
Representative Liz Snyder (via teleconference)                                                                                  
Representative David Nelson                                                                                                     
Representative James Kaufman (via teleconference)                                                                               
Representative Ken McCarty (via teleconference)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
HOUSE BILL NO. 133                                                                                                              
"An  Act relating  to  the Alaska  savings  program for  eligible                                                               
individuals; relating to education  savings programs; relating to                                                               
the Education  Trust of  Alaska; relating  to the  Alaska advance                                                               
college tuition  savings fund; relating  to the  Alaska education                                                               
savings  program for  children;  and relating  to the  Governor's                                                               
Council on Disabilities and Special Education."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Labor Relations Agency                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Tyler Andrews - Anchorage                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
State Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land                                                                  
Surveyors                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Fred Wallis - Healy                                                                                                        
     Robert "Bob" Bell - Anchorage                                                                                              
     Jeff Garness - Anchorage                                                                                                   
     Loren Leman - Anchorage                                                                                                    
     Ed Leonetti - Anchorage                                                                                                    
     Randall Rozier - Fairbanks                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Jake Maxwell - Anchorage                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Deirdre Ford - Anchorage                                                                                                   
     Amy Steele - Anchorage                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
State Board of Physical Therapy & Occupational Therapy                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Lisa Radley - Anchorage                                                                                                    
     Rebecca Dean - Fairbanks                                                                                                   
     Jodi Pfeiffer - Fairbanks                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Nathan Missler - Anchorage                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 133                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: AK ED SAVINGS PROGRAMS/ELIGIBILITY                                                                                 
SPONSOR(s): LABOR & COMMERCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
03/10/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/10/21       (H)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
03/17/21       (H)       L&C AT 5:45 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/17/21       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
03/19/21       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA LEARY, Director                                                                                                          
Treasury Division                                                                                                               
Department of Revenue                                                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the hearing of HB
133.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
TAMERA "TAMMI" WEAVER, Trust Administrator                                                                                      
Education Trust of Alaska                                                                                                       
University of Alaska Fairbanks                                                                                                  
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions  during the hearing of HB
133.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAD HAMPTON, Attorney                                                                                                          
Disability Law Center of Alaska                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 133.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
TYLER ANDREWS, Appointee                                                                                                        
Alaska Labor Relations Agency                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Spoke as  an appointee to the  Alaska Labor                                                             
Relations Agency.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
FRED WALLIS, Appointee                                                                                                          
State  Board of  Registration  for Architects,  Engineers &  Land                                                               
Surveyors                                                                                                                       
Healy, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Spoke as an  appointee to the State Board of                                                             
Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land Surveyors.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT "BOB" BELL, Appointee                                                                                                    
State  Board of  Registration  for Architects,  Engineers &  Land                                                               
Surveyors                                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Spoke as an  appointee to the State Board of                                                             
Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land Surveyors.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JEFF GARNESS, Appointee                                                                                                         
State  Board of  Registration  for Architects,  Engineers &  Land                                                               
Surveyors                                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Spoke as an  appointee to the State Board of                                                             
Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land Surveyors.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LOREN LEMAN, Appointee                                                                                                          
State  Board of  Registration  for Architects,  Engineers &  Land                                                               
Surveyors                                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Spoke as an  appointee to the State Board of                                                             
Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land Surveyors.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ED LEONETTI, Appointee                                                                                                          
State  Board of  Registration  for Architects,  Engineers &  Land                                                               
Surveyors                                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Spoke as an  appointee to the State Board of                                                             
Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land Surveyors.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
RANDALL ROZIER, Appointee                                                                                                       
State  Board of  Registration  for Architects,  Engineers &  Land                                                               
Surveyors                                                                                                                       
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Spoke as an  appointee to the State Board of                                                             
Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land Surveyors.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEIRDRE FORD, Appointee                                                                                                         
Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Spoke  as  an  appointee to  the  Workers'                                                             
Compensation Appeals Commission.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
AMY STEELE, Appointee                                                                                                           
Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Spoke  as  an  appointee to  the  Workers'                                                             
Compensation Appeals Commission.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LISA RADLEY, Appointee                                                                                                          
State Board of Physical Therapy & Occupational Therapy                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Spoke as an  appointee to the State Board of                                                             
Physical Therapy & Occupational Therapy.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REBECCA DEAN, Appointee                                                                                                         
State Board of Physical Therapy & Occupational Therapy                                                                          
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Spoke as an  appointee to the State Board of                                                             
Physical Therapy & Occupational Therapy.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JODI PFEIFFER, Appointee                                                                                                        
State Board of Physical Therapy & Occupational Therapy                                                                          
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Spoke as an  appointee to the State Board of                                                             
Physical Therapy & Occupational Therapy.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:22:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  IVY  SPOHNHOLZ  called  the House  Labor  and  Commerce                                                             
Standing   Committee    meeting   to    order   at    3:22   p.m.                                                               
Representatives   Spohnholz,   Nelson,   Schrage,   Snyder   (via                                                               
teleconference),  Kaufman (via  teleconference), and  Fields were                                                               
present at  the call  to order.   Representative  McCarty arrived                                                               
(via teleconference) as the meeting was in progress.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
            HB 133-AK ED SAVINGS PROGRAMS/ELIGIBILITY                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:23:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ announced  that the  first order  of business                                                               
would  be HOUSE  BILL NO.  133, "An  Act relating  to the  Alaska                                                               
savings program  for eligible individuals; relating  to education                                                               
savings  programs; relating  to  the Education  Trust of  Alaska;                                                               
relating  to the  Alaska advance  college  tuition savings  fund;                                                               
relating to  the Alaska education  savings program  for children;                                                               
and  relating  to  the Governor's  Council  on  Disabilities  and                                                               
Special Education."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:24:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  introduced HB 133  on behalf of the  House Labor                                                               
and  Commerce   Standing  Committee,   sponsor,  and   offered  a                                                               
PowerPoint presentation  entitled, "HB  133 -  ABLE Update."   He                                                               
began  on slide  1,  "What is  an ABLE  Account?"  which read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ABLE: Achieving a Better Life Experience                                                                                   
     ?Tax-free savings account for individuals with                                                                             
     qualifying disabilities                                                                                                    
     ?Funds may be used to pay for items such as disability                                                                     
     expenses, education, housing, transportation                                                                               
     ?Distributions into accounts are not counted against                                                                       
     individual in determining eligibility for Medicaid and                                                                     
     needs-based assistance programs                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS proceeded  to slide 4, "ABLE Act  of 2013," which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      Signed into federal law in December 2014 as part of                                                                       
     the Tax Extenders package                                                                                                  
     ?Established 529A (ABLE) savings account exclusively                                                                       
     for individuals with disabilities                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  added that following the  signing, former Alaska                                                               
State Representative  Dan Sadler and former  Alaska State Senator                                                               
Cathy Giessel passed the first  iteration of the Alaska ABLE Act.                                                               
He  proceeded  to slide  5,  "Alaska  ABLE  Act," which  read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ?Signed into law in July 2016                                                                                              
     ?Authorized establishment  of a  state ABLE  program to                                                                    
     be administered by Department of Revenue                                                                                   
     ?Matched the 2013 ABLE Act passed by Congress                                                                              
     ?Alaska joined  the National ABLE Alliance,  a group of                                                                    
     17   states  formed   to   share  information,   create                                                                    
     economies  of scale  and provide  a  hub for  financial                                                                    
     inquiries                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:25:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS shared that since  the passage of this version of                                                               
the ABLE  Act, there have  been significant federal changes.   He                                                               
stated that  the purpose of  the bill is  to conform to  and take                                                               
advantage of  those federal changes,  which will be  discussed in                                                               
the subsequent  slides.  He proceeded  to slide 7, "ABLE  to Work                                                               
Act," which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ?Signed into  law in 2017 as  part of the Tax  Cuts and                                                                    
     Jobs Act                                                                                                                   
     ?Increased annual contributions levels                                                                                     
     ?Incentivized    employment     by    increasing    the                                                                    
     contribution  level  for  employed  beneficiaries  from                                                                    
     $15,000 to $27,060                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  paraphrased  from   slide  8,  "ABLE  Financial                                                               
Planning  Act,"  which  read  as  follows  [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ?Signed into  law in 2017 as  part of the Tax  Cuts and                                                                    
     Jobs Act                                                                                                                   
      Allowed  college saving  account funds  (529 accounts)                                                                    
     to roll over into ABLE accounts                                                                                            
     ?Allowed  individuals who  incurred disabilities  after                                                                    
     they established 529 college  savings plan to roll over                                                                    
     savings into ABLE account                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS proceeded to slide  9, "ABLE Age Adjustment Act,"                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ?Will increase the age of eligibility from 26 to 46                                                                        
     ?Will allow more participation in ABLE accounts                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  explained that these  changes make sense  to him                                                               
because  people  with  disabilities  have a  continued  need  for                                                               
updated  training  to  keep  abreast   of  current  labor  market                                                               
opportunities.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:27:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS   proceeded  to  slide  10,   "HB  133  Proposed                                                               
Updates," and  asked whether the  committee would like  to embark                                                               
upon the  proposed change of  reassigning the management  of ABLE                                                               
to a different department.  He  stated that he would like to hear                                                               
ideas  on  the  best  department  to  house  this  program.    He                                                               
paraphrased   the  slide,   which  read   as  follows   [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ?Reassigns department responsibility                                                                                       
     ?Expands age eligibility limits                                                                                            
     ?Allows greater  flexibility in using funds  to pay for                                                                    
     education expenses                                                                                                         
      Allows  529  program accounts  to  roll  into an  ABLE                                                                    
     account                                                                                                                    
     ?Aligns  with  federal  regulations  regarding  program                                                                    
     savings accounts                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  began  the  Sectional  Analysis  on  slide  12,                                                               
"Section  1,"   which  read  as  follows   [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ?Establishes AS 06.65.020(b)                                                                                               
     ?Requires the Department of  Health and Social Services                                                                    
     to consult with the  Governor's Council on Disabilities                                                                    
     and  Special  Education   when  overseeing  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Savings Program                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  moved to  slide 13, "Section  2," which  read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ?Expands  the  age  of eligibility  from  26  to  match                                                                    
     proposed federal law age of 46.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS paraphrased slide  14, "Sections 3-4," which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ?Expands eligibility of contributors  and the amount of                                                                    
     contributions to  program accounts to  match guidelines                                                                    
     in AS 14.40.802(f)(3) from Section 10                                                                                      
     ?Expanded to include:                                                                                                      
     ?Contributions  for  the  beneficiary   or  for  a  new                                                                    
     individual who is a member  of the family of the former                                                                    
     beneficiary  and   an  eligible  individual   under  AS                                                                    
     06.65.100.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS   proceeded  to  slide  15,   "Section  5,"  and                                                               
explained that  this section  anticipates future  federal changes                                                               
so that state law may not need  to be updated as frequently.  The                                                               
slide read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      Specifies that a rollover may  occur between a program                                                                    
     account  to  another  account if  the  new  account  is                                                                    
     authorized by federal law                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:28:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS paraphrased slide  16, "Section 6," and explained                                                               
that it  shifts departmental  responsibility from  the Department                                                               
of Revenue (DOR) to the  Department of Health and Social Services                                                               
(DHSS).  He  reminded the committee that the  question of whether                                                               
or not this  should be done remains unanswered and  he would like                                                               
to hear feedback on this aspect  of the proposed bill.  The slide                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      Redefines  "department"  to  mean  the  Department  of                                                                    
     Health  and  Social  Services  to  mark  the  shift  in                                                                    
     supervising authority between the two departments                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  proceeded to slide  17, "Section 7,"  which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      Replaces  "higher  education"  with  "education"  when                                                                    
     referring to an education savings account                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  moved to  slide 18, "Section  8," which  read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ?Removes  the  distinction of  postsecondary  education                                                                    
     when referring to an education savings account                                                                             
     ?Renames  the "Alaska  Higher Education  Savings Trust"                                                                    
     to the "Education Trust of Alaska"                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  briefly summarized slide 19,  "Section 9," which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ?Removes  the  distinction of  postsecondary  education                                                                    
     when referring to an education savings account                                                                             
     ?Renames  the "Alaska  Higher Education  Savings Trust"                                                                    
     to the "Education Trust of Alaska"                                                                                         
     ?Removes the allowance  that education savings accounts                                                                    
     can be used to pay for  room and board when using funds                                                                    
     for  education  costs  as   this  language  is  already                                                                    
     included in Section 14                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:29:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS continued  to slide 20, "Section  10," which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ?Establishes AS 14.40.802(f)(3)                                                                                            
     ?ABLE participants were previously  only able to change                                                                    
     beneficiary of  an account  to eligible  family members                                                                    
     with 529 account or other ABLE account                                                                                     
     ?Participants are now able to  change beneficiary of an                                                                    
     account  to any  person, not  just family  members, who                                                                    
     are eligible individuals                                                                                                   
     ?A  common reason  that transfers  happen  is that  the                                                                    
     funds are no longer needed by original beneficiary                                                                         
     ?Eligible  individuals   are  defined  as   those  with                                                                    
     qualifying disabilities, including blindness                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS identified that the  important item in Section 10                                                               
is that Alaskans are not losing  savings when they pass away.  He                                                               
skipped  slide  21,  "Section  11" and  proceeded  to  slide  22,                                                               
"Section  12,"  which  read   as  follows  [original  punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      Allows a program participant  to designate a successor                                                                    
     participant  to their  account  and  allows changes  to                                                                    
     take effect immediately                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  explained that slide 23,  "Section 13," included                                                               
more  information on  "designated beneficiaries"  related to  529                                                               
accounts and proceeded  to slide 24, "Section 14,"  which read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      Defines  "designated  beneficiary"  to have  the  same                                                                    
     definition given in 26 U.S.C. 529(e)                                                                                       
      "Designated beneficiary" means:                                                                                           
       (A)the individual  designated at the  commencement of                                                                    
     participation in  the qualified tuition program  as the                                                                    
     beneficiary  of amounts  paid (or  to be  paid) to  the                                                                    
     program,                                                                                                                   
      (B)in the case of  a change in beneficiaries described                                                                    
     in subsection (c)(3)(C), the individual  who is the new                                                                    
     beneficiary, and                                                                                                           
      (C)in the case  of an interest in  a qualified tuition                                                                    
     program purchased  by a State  or local  government (or                                                                    
     agency or  instrumentality thereof) or  an organization                                                                    
     described   in  section   501(c)(3)  and   exempt  from                                                                    
     taxation under section 501(a) as  part of a scholarship                                                                    
     program  operated by  such government  or organization,                                                                    
     the   individual   receiving   such   interest   as   a                                                                    
     scholarship.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:31:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS   advanced  to  slide  29,   "Section  15,"  and                                                               
explained  that it  relates back  to  529 accounts  and ABLE  Act                                                               
transfer issues.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS paraphrased  slide 30,  "Sections 16-23,"  which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ?Renames  the "Alaska  Higher Education  Savings Trust"                                                                    
     to the "Education Trust of Alaska"                                                                                         
     ?Removes  the  distinction  of  higher  education  when                                                                    
     referring to  the Alaska  education savings  program or                                                                    
     an education investment program                                                                                            
     ?Replaces "University  of Alaska college  savings plan"                                                                    
     and "college  savings account" with  "education savings                                                                    
     plan                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS explained that slide  31, "Section 24," refers to                                                               
more  on conforming  changes for  educational programs,  and that                                                               
slide 32, "Section 25," continues with these conforming changes.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS concluded  that  the conforming  changes in  the                                                               
bill are the increase in age,  rollovers from 529 accounts to the                                                               
ABLE Act, the expanded beneficiaries,  and the expanded amount of                                                               
savings  in  the  ABLE  Act  account to  pay  for  education  and                                                               
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:32:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON  asked if  Co-Chair Fields could  return to                                                               
slide 21, "Section 11," in his presentation and explain it.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS responded  that  he  wanted to  ask  one of  the                                                               
invited testifiers to explain it.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:33:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA   LEARY,  Director,   Treasury  Division,   Department  of                                                               
Revenue,  explained that  there  are certain  limits  as to  what                                                               
money can  go into  ABLE funds.   There are  a variety  of people                                                               
that can add money to an account  on behalf of someone who has an                                                               
ABLE  account, and  the limit  refers  to the  maximum amount  of                                                               
money that can go into the account.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:33:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ asked  whether there  are any  concerns about                                                               
exploitation in turning  assets over to non-family  members.  She                                                               
also  asked whether  the bill  would allow  529 [accounts]  to be                                                               
used  for[expenditures related  to] kindergarten  through twelfth                                                               
grade ("K-12") and Pre-K.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LEARY  deferred the  question  to  another testifier,  Tammi                                                               
Weaver.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:35:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMMERA "TAMMI"  WEAVER, Trust Administrator, Education  Trust of                                                               
Alaska,  University  of  Alaska, Fairbanks,  responded  that  the                                                               
modifications  to the  bill  do incorporate  the  changes in  the                                                               
federal tax  law which  allow 529  accounts to  be used  for K-12                                                               
education  as well  as apprenticeship  and limited  repayments of                                                               
student loans.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ asked whether that  applies only to those with                                                               
a disability or to all Alaskans.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEAVER responded  that it applies to anyone who  invests in a                                                               
529 education savings plan.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ commented  that that  is a  huge policy  call                                                               
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEAVER responded that this change  is just to bring the state                                                               
statutes  in compliance  with  the federal  law,  which has  been                                                               
modified to allow those expenditures.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:37:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAD HAMPTON,  Attorney, Disability Law Center  of Alaska (DLCA),                                                               
shared  that the  DCLA  is  involved every  day  in advocacy  for                                                               
people  with disabilities,  and  that the  center hears  concerns                                                               
from  these individuals  about how  to  maintain their  benefits.                                                               
The solution for  many of these individuals, he  continued, is an                                                               
ABLE  account.     Regarding  the  earlier   question  about  the                                                               
potential for exploitation,  he said that there has  been a trend                                                               
recently in  helping individuals  with disabilities that  may not                                                               
have  family  members  to  help  them,  and  he  gave  supportive                                                               
decision-making agreements as  an example of this.   He explained                                                               
that  these agreements  involve finding  people in  an individual                                                               
with  disability's  network  to help  the  individual  understand                                                               
information  and make  decisions.   He said  that he  understands                                                               
that  there   is  a  concern   that  this  might  lead   to  some                                                               
exploitation and  that there  is no way  to necessarily  rule out                                                               
that exploitation wouldn't happen within  the family as well, but                                                               
that's why  there are backstops  in place to protect  people with                                                               
disabilities such  as Adult Protective  Services.   In advocating                                                               
for people with disabilities, he  said there is a big distinction                                                               
between  a  person's  ability to  make  unwise  decisions,  which                                                               
everyone has the right to do, and exploitation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAMPTON opined that it is a  great idea to tie the state ABLE                                                               
statutes more directly  to the federal ABLE statutes.   He shared                                                               
that  this  would  allow Alaskans  to  immediately  benefit  from                                                               
changes in  the federal law  without waiting for Alaska  to catch                                                               
up on  national disability norms  as they  may change.   He added                                                               
that  the  age   extension  from  26  to  46   mentioned  in  the                                                               
presentation  would   be  excellent   as  well  as   the  general                                                               
additional flexibility for how ABLE accounts are used.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:40:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HAMPTON shared  that another  challenge to  individuals with                                                               
disabilities is  lack of individualized  solutions that  can lead                                                               
to segregation from the general community.   This can come in the                                                               
form  of  separate  classrooms   for  people  with  disabilities,                                                               
sheltered workshops  where people don't have  the same employment                                                               
options,  or universal  accommodations  that  aren't tailored  to                                                               
specific  individual needs.   Granting  more flexibility  to make                                                               
these decisions  will allow Alaskans  with ABLE  accounts greater                                                               
authority over important decisions.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAMPTON concluded  that he has a couple of  concerns about HB
133.   He considers it a  logical change, but did  note that even                                                               
with the governor's  plan for splitting the  Department of Health                                                               
and  Social Services  (DHSS) tabled,  he asked  the committee  to                                                               
consider  potential consequences  of  implementing ABLE  accounts                                                               
under HB  133.  Another  concern he identified regards  Section 1                                                               
of the bill,  which would require the department  to consult with                                                               
the  Governor's Council  on  Disabilities  and Special  Education                                                               
(GCDSE).  He shared that the  DLCA understands the intent of this                                                               
addition, but he said that  a potential ambiguous reading of that                                                               
same  statutory  language  might  commit  the  GCDSE  to  provide                                                               
technical support  on complex financial  matters that  it doesn't                                                               
have the  expertise or  staffing to provide.   He  explained that                                                               
the ambiguity  arises out  of the word  "shall" coupled  with the                                                               
lack of definition on the  purpose for consulting with the GCDSE.                                                               
He concluded  by reiterating that  the DLCA supports  the changes                                                               
that the bill proposes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:42:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS shared  that he  and his  staff talked  with the                                                               
GCDSE,  and  that  the  council's perspective  was  that  it  can                                                               
continue to  support this program through  important outreach and                                                               
coordination, but  agreed that  the council  is probably  not the                                                               
most logical  entity to  support complex  financial interactions;                                                               
such interactions would better be housed in another department.                                                                 
He added  that the  testimony makes him  think that  although the                                                               
council should remain in a supporting  role, it does not have the                                                               
capacity to "own" the program.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:43:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ asked  Mr. Hampton  to provide  the committee                                                               
with a concrete or specific recommendation if he has one.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:44:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  asked if the  departments could  provide insight                                                               
as to  whether ABLE accounts  would be more  appropriately housed                                                               
in DOR or DHSS.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:44:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LEARY  responded that  she was  present at  the birth  of the                                                               
program,  and that  it  was  quite the  challenge.   The  program                                                               
joined  an alliance  of 17  states  and developed  a request  for                                                               
proposal (RFP)  to find a  vendor for assistance in  creating and                                                               
administering  the  program.     Program  coordinators  now  meet                                                               
monthly to talk about issues  that impact the constituents of the                                                               
program.    She  shared  that there  are  aspects  of  investment                                                               
involved  in the  program,  which is  why it  was  housed in  DOR                                                               
initially,  but the  six  investment types  in  which people  can                                                               
invest are fairly well identified and  have been the same for the                                                               
past five  years.  She  added that  the alliance of  states meets                                                               
regularly  and if  there  is any  discussion  about changes,  all                                                               
members of  the alliance are given  equal input.  She  shared her                                                               
opinion  that the  program in  its  current state  is beyond  the                                                               
capacity of DOR and the  department doesn't have "the touch," but                                                               
transferring it  to DHSS  will help  it to  continue and  give it                                                               
that  "touch" she  identified as  missing.   She  added that  she                                                               
would  be  happy  to   continue  having  discussions  surrounding                                                               
investments but that  she thinks that the program  would have its                                                               
needs better served under DHSS.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  offered her understanding that  finding a way                                                               
to create  a combination  of the financial  expertise of  DOR and                                                               
the programmatic  and relational outreach expertise  of the GCDSE                                                               
is going to be important in the  final drafting of the bill.  She                                                               
asked if Ms. Leary agrees or if she has another suggestion.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LEARY  responded  that participating  in  the  alliance  and                                                               
discussing  issues like  self-certification and  relevant federal                                                               
legislation would be  better served not within DOR,  but in DHSS.                                                               
She  explained that  DHSS  is  much closer  to  those issues  and                                                               
understands the needs  of constituents.  She  reiterated that she                                                               
would  always  be available  as  would  her investment  staff  to                                                               
discuss investment choices.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:48:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAMPTON  added that there  is a  potential for a  finance and                                                               
management  services   division  within   DHSS  to   oversee  the                                                               
financial  management aspects.   The  GCDSE could  be on  hand to                                                               
handle the disability outreach and implementation focus of it.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   SPOHNHOLZ  asked   whether  there   might  not   be  a                                                               
Restructuring Support Agreement (RSA) between  DOR and DHSS.  She                                                               
concluded  that  the  committee understands  the  issue  and  can                                                               
dedicate some time to coming up  with the right structure for the                                                               
program during the next meeting.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:49:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FIELDS  acknowledged that former State  of Alaska Senate                                                               
President Cathy Giessel  did all the "leg work" on  this bill and                                                               
that he and has staff worked to update it.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:50:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ announced that HB 133 was held over.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                       
                     CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                               
^Alaska Labor Relations Agency                                                                                                  
                  Alaska Labor Relations Agency                                                                             
^State  Board of  Registration for  Architects, Engineers  & Land                                                               
Surveyors                                                                                                                       
   State Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land                                                             
                            Surveyors                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
3:50:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ announced  that  the next  order of  business                                                               
would  be confirmation  hearings in  consideration of  governor's                                                               
appointees to various boards and agencies.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:50:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TYLER ANDREWS,  Appointee, Alaska Labor Relations  Agency, shared                                                               
that he has  served on the board  for a number of  years and that                                                               
he  sees it  as an  honor to  contribute to  Alaska by  using his                                                               
professional expertise.  He also  identified it as an opportunity                                                               
to  dive  deeper  into  his own  expertise  and  appreciates  the                                                               
opportunity to serve and to contribute.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:51:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  noted that there  were no questions  from the                                                               
committee and thanked Mr. Andrews.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:51:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRED  WALLIS,   Appointee,  State   Board  of   Registration  for                                                               
Architects,   Engineers   &   Land  Surveyors,   summarized   his                                                               
experience and work  history as an engineer.  He  said that he is                                                               
the Vice  President of Engineering  for Usibelli Coal  Mine, Inc.                                                               
and a  second-generation graduate  of the  mining program  at the                                                               
University  of  Alaska,  Fairbanks.   He  has  worked  to  obtain                                                               
professional  engineering status  in Alaska  and Canada  over the                                                               
last 29 years  and has been employed by Usibelli  Coal Mine, Inc.                                                               
for the last  24 years.  He concluded that  he is looking forward                                                               
to  again  serving  on the  board,  especially  considering  that                                                               
Alaska  is assumed  to grow  immensely  in the  next five  years,                                                               
which will  result in a  need for new  engineers.  He  added that                                                               
keeping the public safe is his number one priority.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:52:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  noted that there  were no questions  from the                                                               
committee and thanked Mr. Wallis.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:52:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  "BOB" BELL,  Appointee, State  Board of  Registration for                                                               
Architects, Engineers &  Land Surveyors, shared that  he has been                                                               
practicing engineering and  land surveying in Alaska  for over 50                                                               
years.   He  started  his own  business in  1974  and it's  still                                                               
running with his  son taking over as  CEO in 2007.   He said that                                                               
makes  him semi-retired,  which gives  him time  to serve  on the                                                               
board.   He  explained that  he has  served on  other boards  and                                                               
commissions such  as the Anchorage  Assembly, the State  Board of                                                               
Game,  etcetera,  and will  bring  experience  in the  technical,                                                               
administrative, and political aspects of board membership.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:53:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  asked if  there's  anything  that's come  up                                                               
during  Mr. Bell's  time on  the board  that's been  particularly                                                               
interesting.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BELL responded  that there  have been  some cases  regarding                                                               
continuing  education  that have  been  interesting.   Around  10                                                               
percent of licensees  are meant to be audited to  ensure that the                                                               
licensees actually  complete the  continuing education,  but this                                                               
has  not been  happening and  only started  happening around  the                                                               
same time he joined the board.   He explained that it was obvious                                                               
in  some  cases that  the  licensee  hadn't done  the  continuing                                                               
education and that instead, the  licensee would compile a variety                                                               
of  attended  meetings  that the  licensee  thought  should  have                                                               
qualified.    He said  that  situation  was interesting  to  sort                                                               
through.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  asked if Mr.  Bell thinks that  new processes                                                               
have been put  into place to ensure that those  audits are taking                                                               
place.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BELL responded yes, it's working well.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:55:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ   thanked  Mr.   Bell  for  his   support  of                                                               
University  of  Alaska,  Anchorage  (UAA)  and  acknowledged  his                                                               
involvement there.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:55:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  GARNESS,   Appointee,  State  Board  of   Registration  for                                                               
Architects, Engineers  & Land Surveyors,  shared that he  and his                                                               
entire family all live in Alaska,  and he has been in business in                                                               
Alaska for  over 30 years.   He said that he  earned his Bachelor                                                               
of Engineering degree and Master  of Engineering degree in Arctic                                                               
Engineering from  the University  of Alaska.   He added  that his                                                               
son  is also  a  civil engineer  and, although  his  son got  his                                                               
engineering degree in California, his  son came back to Alaska to                                                               
work with Mr. Garness.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GARNESS  continued  that  he  has served  on  the  Board  of                                                               
Chiropractic Examiners as a public  member and therefore has some                                                               
board experience.  He also noted  that he was appointed by former                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska,  Mayor  Ethan   Berkowitz  to  serve  on  the                                                               
Anchorage On-site  Water and  Wastewater Technical  Review Board,                                                               
which he  serves on currently  and he is  awaiting reappointment.                                                               
He explained  that he is  actively involved in writing  water and                                                               
wastewater  code  regulations as  part  of  his position  on  the                                                               
board.  He concluded that  his experience and knowledge will help                                                               
him be an effective board member.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:57:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE thanked  Mr. Garness  for his  service in                                                               
the military and to the community.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. GARNESS  clarified that he  didn't serve in the  military but                                                               
that he was a civilian doing work  for 10 years for the Air Force                                                               
and the Army.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:57:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ noted  that Mr. Garness is a  "double grad" of                                                               
UAA.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:57:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LOREN  LEMAN,   Appointee,  State   Board  of   Registration  for                                                               
Architects, Engineers &  Land Surveyors, stated that  he has been                                                               
practicing  civil environmental  engineering  for 47  years.   He                                                               
noted that 18  of those years were disrupted by  his time serving                                                               
in the  legislature for  14 years  and then  serving one  term as                                                               
lieutenant governor.   He expressed his interest  in meeting with                                                               
committee members in  person one day when that  is possible [with                                                               
consideration of COVID-19].                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEMAN continued  that the  board is  hard-working and  meets                                                               
four times  a year for  two days each  time, which the  board has                                                               
done this  year via video conference.   He stated that  he enjoys                                                               
serving on  the board to  give back  to his profession,  which he                                                               
said has  been good  to him.   He noted that  he offers  a unique                                                               
perspective  in that  he's also  served  in a  public office  and                                                               
that's  something that  he hopes  can be  helpful.   He concluded                                                               
that he  would appreciate the  vote of the committee  members but                                                               
perhaps even  more importantly, the  committee's support  for the                                                               
other members of the board who are up for confirmation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:00:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  commented that she  worked with Mr.  Leman at                                                               
the Salvation Army and at UAA.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:00:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ED  LEONETTI,   Appointee,  State   Board  of   Registration  for                                                               
Architects,   Engineers  &   Land   Surveyors,   stated  that   a                                                               
combination of working experience  and volunteer board experience                                                               
makes  him  an ideal  board  member.   He  shared  that  he is  a                                                               
licensed  professional landscape  architect  in  Alaska and  four                                                               
other  states with  20 years  of experience.   He  has planned  a                                                               
variety  of  landscape  features   such  as  parks,  plazas,  and                                                               
playgrounds across the  state.  His most  recent project involves                                                               
integrating the  Alaska Native culture  into a new facility.   He                                                               
explained  that he  enjoys practicing  landscape architecture  in                                                               
Alaska due to the unique nature of the state.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEONETTI explained  that his  pas board  experience includes                                                               
quasi-judicial commissions  and non-profit boards.   He said that                                                               
he has  experienced times as a  board member where the  board has                                                               
agreed unanimously  and others where  it has been  divided, which                                                               
he points  to as an  example that  a healthy board  or commission                                                               
doesn't always  agree, but that  it allows members to  have their                                                               
own  time to  speak  their  concerns.   This  allows for  healthy                                                               
discussion  as a  group  that  stays on  topic  and resolves  the                                                               
motions on  a table.   He ended  by pledging to  collaborate with                                                               
board  members with  a  commitment  to put  the  public first  by                                                               
protecting public health, safety, and welfare.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:03:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ asked  if the  education item  on his  resume                                                               
called  "Northern  Building  Design"  taken  through  UAA  was  a                                                               
certification, class, degree, or something else.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONETTI  answered that it is  a course that is  required for                                                               
licensure.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:05:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ noted  that a few appointees  were not online,                                                               
and that the committee would hear them at another time.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Due  to technical  difficulties,  the  confirmation hearing  for                                                               
Randall  Rozier,  Appointee,  State  Board  of  Registration  for                                                               
Architects, Engineers  & Land Surveyors,  was heard later  in the                                                               
meeting.]                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:08:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ announced  that  the committee  will try  Mr.                                                               
Rozier at a later time when he has better cell service.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:08:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  opened public  testimony on  the confirmation                                                               
hearings  for  Tyler  Andrews,  appointee  to  the  Alaska  Labor                                                               
Relations  Board  and  Fred  Wallis,   Robert  "Bob"  Bell,  Jeff                                                               
Garness,  and Loren  Leman, and  Ed Leonetti,  appointees to  the                                                               
State  Board of  Registration  for Architects,  Engineers &  Land                                                               
Surveyors. After  ascertaining that there  was no one  who wished                                                               
to testify, she closed public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[The  confirmation  hearings   for  governor's  appointees  Tyler                                                               
Andrews  to the  Alaska Labor  Relations Board  and Fred  Wallis,                                                               
Robert Bell, Jeff  Garness, Loren Leman, and Ed  Leonetti, to the                                                               
State  Board of  Registration  for Architects,  Engineers &  Land                                                               
Surveyors were held over.]                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission                                                                                     
             Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
4:08:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ announced  that  the next  order of  business                                                               
would  be  consideration  of the  governor's  appointees  to  the                                                               
Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:08:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEIRDRE   FORD,   Appointee,    Workers'   Compensation   Appeals                                                               
Commission, explained that she was  first appointed to the Alaska                                                               
Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission  in 2016 by former state                                                               
of  Alaska Governor  Bill  Walker  to complete  the  term of  the                                                               
previous chair who  went into retirement.  She came  to Alaska in                                                               
1978 and Alaska  "sent me to law school" in  1981, she continued,                                                               
and expressed her  gratitude to the State for  the opportunity to                                                               
practice  law  and  work  in  Alaska.   She  was  reappointed  by                                                               
Governor Mike  Dunleavy to  a full  five-year term  and expressed                                                               
that she loves  doing the work of the commission  and giving back                                                               
to Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:10:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  asked Ms.  Ford to  tell the  committee about                                                               
what she enjoys about working on the commission.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FORD  responded  that  she   was  an  attorney  representing                                                               
employers  before  the Alaska  Supreme  Court  lost the  Workers'                                                               
Compensation  Board,  then  was  a  hearing  officer  before  the                                                               
Workers' Compensation  Board, and now  does appellate work.   She                                                               
exclaimed that  it is great  fun to observe the  attorneys making                                                               
the mistakes that she made when  she was practicing and help them                                                               
to correct those mistakes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:11:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMY STEELE, Appointee,  Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission,                                                               
testified that  she was reappointed to  the Workers' Compensation                                                               
Appeals  Commission in  June  2019 and  previously  served as  an                                                               
industry  member for  the Workers'  Compensation Board  from 2011                                                               
through 2019.  She said that  she has over 20 years of experience                                                               
in  the insurance  and risk  management  fields and  has had  the                                                               
opportunity to  manage and oversee  claims throughout  the United                                                               
States and  overseas.  She  surmised that  this gives her  a wide                                                               
range   of   knowledge    about   multi-jurisdictional   workers'                                                               
compensation  law.   She shared  that she  currently works  for a                                                               
Native corporation overseeing the  auto and workers' compensation                                                               
claims  and  assisting  employees   with  the  process  and  with                                                               
available benefits.  She concluded  that she thinks her extensive                                                               
work history would allow her  to bring beneficial knowledge and a                                                               
relevant perspective  to the commission.   She shared  that, like                                                               
Ms.  Ford, she  also  enjoys  being on  the  commission and  also                                                               
enjoyed her time on the Workers' Compensation Board.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:12:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  opened public  testimony on  the confirmation                                                               
hearings  for Amy  Steele  and Deirdre  Ford,  appointees to  the                                                               
Workers'  Compensation Appeals  Commission.   After  ascertaining                                                               
that there  was no one who  wished to testify, she  closed public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[The  confirmation  hearings  for governor's  appointees  Deirdre                                                               
Ford  and  Amy  Steele  to   the  Workers'  Compensation  Appeals                                                               
Commission were held over.]                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^State Board of Physical Therapy & Occupational Therapy                                                                         
      State Board of Physical Therapy & Occupational Therapy                                                                
                                                                                                                              
4:13:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LISA  RADLEY,  Appointee,  State  Board  of  Physical  Therapy  &                                                               
Occupational Therapy,  shared that she  has worked in  Alaska for                                                               
three years  and served on the  board for the past  year starting                                                               
in March  2020.   She said that  she is honored  to serve  on the                                                               
board  and to  contribute  in any  way she  can  to maintain  the                                                               
integrity of the profession and  the accessibility of services to                                                               
the public.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:14:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REBECCA  DEAN,  Appointee,  State  Board of  Physical  Therapy  &                                                               
Occupational Therapy, shared that she  has lived in Alaska for 34                                                               
years and  her family, who also  lives in Alaska, anchors  her to                                                               
the state.  She shared  her extensive work history in healthcare,                                                               
including working as a  therapy department administrative manager                                                               
and 35 years of experience  in recruiting, hiring, licensing, and                                                               
credentialing   physicians,    physician   assistants,   physical                                                               
therapists, and  other health  care professionals.   She  holds a                                                               
Master  of  Business  Administration  degree and  owns  Dean  and                                                               
Associates,  a  healthcare  and strategic  management  consulting                                                               
business.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DEAN continued  that she  is  interested in  serving on  the                                                               
board  to contribute  experience,  knowledge, and  wisdom and  to                                                               
effectively  ensure  diligence in  the  board's  practices.   She                                                               
expressed interest  in assisting  in establishing  standards that                                                               
remain current  and recognizing and meeting  national trends, and                                                               
ensuring that there  is continued access to health  care for all.                                                               
She reiterated  that her  experience would  make her  a qualified                                                               
board member,  and that  she enjoys  doing the  work and  feels a                                                               
responsibility to give back.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:18:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ thanked Ms. Dean for her testimony.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:18:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JODI  PFEIFFER,  Appointee, State  Board  of  Physical Therapy  &                                                               
Occupational Therapy, stated  that in her 27  years of experience                                                               
in the field of physical therapy,  she has worked in a variety of                                                               
settings, including  acute care, outpatient care,  long-term care                                                               
facilities,  nursing  facilities,  and  school  districts.    She                                                               
shared  that  she  recently  completed  the  coursework  for  her                                                               
master's degree  program.  She  has also  served in a  variety of                                                               
elected and  appointed positions, including her  current position                                                               
as the Physical  Therapy Assistant (PTA) program  director at the                                                               
University of Alaska  Anchorage.  She added that  serving on this                                                               
board would allow  her to serve her profession and  the public in                                                               
a new  way and allow  her to be  part of the  regulatory process,                                                               
which she  stated has  been a  passion for her.   She  also noted                                                               
that  she  has a  perspective  different  from many  other  board                                                               
members as  a PTA, which will  help the board be  more reflective                                                               
of the community it serves.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:20:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON asked  if Ms. Pfeiffer was  involved in the                                                               
military.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. PFEIFFER  responded that  yes, her  husband was  stationed at                                                               
Fort Leonard  Wood, Missouri,  and she  worked as  a PTA  to help                                                               
rehabilitate  the trainees  who had  been injured  to go  back to                                                               
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NELSON expressed his appreciation for her work.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:21:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  opened public testimony on  the confirmations                                                               
of Lisa  Radley, Rebecca Dean,  and Jodi Pfeiffer,  appointees to                                                               
the State Board of Physical Therapy & Occupational Therapy.                                                                     
After ascertaining that  there was no one who  wished to testify,                                                               
she closed public testimony.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[The  confirmation   hearings  for  governor's   appointees  Lisa                                                               
Radley, Rebecca  Dean, and  Jodi Pfeiffer to  the State  Board of                                                               
Physical Therapy & Occupational Therapy were held over.]                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^State  Board of  Registration for  Architects, Engineers  & Land                                                               
Surveyors                                                                                                                       
   State Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land                                                             
                            Surveyors                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:21:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ announced  that the  final order  of business                                                               
would  be a  return to  the confirmation  hearing for  governor's                                                               
appointees  to the  State Board  of Registration  for Architects,                                                               
Engineers & Land Surveyors.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ explained that  Mr. Rozier, who was previously                                                               
not able to connect telephonically, was now available.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:21:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RANDALL  ROZIER,  Appointee,  State  Board  of  Registration  for                                                               
Architects, Engineers & Land Surveyors,  said that it is an honor                                                               
to  be  appointed  to  the  architect seat  of  the  board.    He                                                               
expressed   that   he   looks   forward   to   coordinating   and                                                               
collaborating  on a  high level  of  responsibility and  learning                                                             
from the perspective of the other  board members.  He shared that                                                               
he has always wanted to be  an architect but since Alaska did not                                                               
have  an architecture  program,  he  left the  state  to get  his                                                               
degree and then  returned and has been practicing  in Alaska ever                                                               
since.   He  added that  he  has 15  years of  experience and  is                                                               
currently an  owner of one  of the largest architecture  firms in                                                               
Alaska.     He  expressed  that   he  has  a   responsibility  to                                                               
participate in government and the best  way for him to do that is                                                               
through his expertise in architecture.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:23:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ  opened public  testimony on  the confirmation                                                               
of Randal  Rozier, appointee to  the State Board  of Registration                                                               
for Architects, Engineers & Land  Surveyors.   After ascertaining                                                               
that there  was no one who  wished to testify, she  closed public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[The confirmation hearing for governor's appointee Randall                                                                      
Rozier to the State Board of Registration for Architects,                                                                       
Engineers & Land Surveyors was held over.]                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:24:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ thanked all of the appointees.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:25:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Labor and Commerce Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at                                                                  
4:25 p.m.                                                                                                                       

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Jeffrey Garness Resume 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Jodi Pfeiffer Resume 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Lisa Radley Board Application 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Lisa Radley Resume 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Loren Leman Resume 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Nathan Missler Board Application 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Randall Rozier Board Application 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Rebecca Dean Board Application 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Rebecca Dean Resume 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Robert Bob Bell Resume 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Tyler Andrews Board Application 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Tyler Andrews Resume 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Amy Steele Resume 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Arpad Bruce Magyar Board Application 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Arpad Magyar Resume 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Deirdre Ford Board Application 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Edward Leonetti Board Application 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Edward Leonetti Resume 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Fred Wallis Resume 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
Jake Maxwell Resume 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HL&C Confirmations 2021
HB 133 Sponsor Presentation 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 133
HB 133 Sectional Analysis 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 133
HB 133 Sponsor Statement 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 133
HB 133 Supporting Document - 10 Things You Should Know About ABLE 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 133
HB 133 Supporting Document - IRS ABLE Accounts Info 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 133
HB 133 Supporting Document - UA Press Release 3.18.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 133
HB 133 v. A 3.10.21.PDF HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 133
HB 133 Fiscal Note UA-SYSBRA 3.13.21.pdf HL&C 3/19/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 133